Keep em coming PE, you are very good value for money! (and much appreciated)
Half banana
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Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!
by pale.emperor ini haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.
a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.
apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?
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Why did you leave?
by Fred Franztone inwe all have many reasons for leaving, most are doctrinal, some are emotional.
it's a religion which obsesses over factual proofs (counterfactual though they are) of its veracity rather than faith, so it's inevitable that most who leave will do so for intellectual reasons.
which doctrine above all others forced you to reconsider your position?
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Half banana
Once I realised the whole thing is a gross confidence trick, Satan and God just being characters from a moralizing melodrama, no evidence for what what being taught and so many culty ways . . .there were no redeeming features left.
I was sitting at the meetings watching the crude indoctrination process and hearing the expression "Jerhoover's theocratic arrangement" for the umteenth time-- made me inwardly sick--and I realised that these gb clowns behind the scenes had dibs on micro-managing my life for eternity.
I think this was the final straw.
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Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!
by pale.emperor ini haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.
a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.
apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?
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Half banana
What I would like to hear is a leaked story of a punch up at a GB committee meeting!
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A Field Service that gave a shock to the CO
by Ireneus induring one co visit to our congregation, i was asked to work with co as i was a new publisher.
after some ordinary visits, we entered a house where there was only a lady who proved be well-educated.
though it was my turn, i told co to present the good news.
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Half banana
Well done for remembering the details Irenaeus.
I think that the ban on college education within the ranks of JWs is beginning to show. As the rest of the planet benefit from better schooling and because of that able to use critical thinking, JWs will remain stuck in the remedial class believing in magical solutions to mankind's problems.
Given more time to shoot themselves in the foot if the cult lasts long enough, they will be laughed at as ignoramuses. It has never been cool to be ignorant as your CO found out!
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Am I losing my mind or am I being stalked?
by Michigan22 inhi everyone, this is my first post.
i studied the bible weekly with a wonderful jw.
i suddenly stopped because things just seemed to be getting stranger.
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Half banana
Hello Michigan, welcome to the site and thanks for posting your experience. "Am I losing my mind?" you asked, I think you are saving your sanity by having already woken up to the creepy cult which is called Jehovah's Witnesses. On the outside all smiles and innocence but on the inside paranoid beliefs of God's wrath visiting all those who are not JWs.
The religion suits people who need to be told what to believe, the last thing JWs want is someone who uses logic, reason or evidence, all they want are simple minded believers who will submit to the highly questionable authority of the governing body.
I am so glad that you were able to see through their religious racket. The deeper you go down their slippery slope the harder to recover. You might like to firmly tell them not to call on you but you will call them if you need to. Best wishes to you.
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"Sidelined CO's"
by Gorbatchov ing's lovely and loyal to the organization mother (due to many reasons), gave an unexpected reaction when i asked "how is brother w. our favorite co and friend since her early youth years?
is he still alive?".
she reacted "he is still alive, but sidelined like the rest of the old gard.
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Half banana
Yes Gorby, the old JWs are sidelined and they know it. Doesn't this demonstrate that a lifetime spent as a JW only leads to gross disappointment?
All the myriad cosy lies about the superiority of "God's people" kept witnesses loyal and on a short leash but never do their promises ever hold true. What a sad waste of lives-- millions of them.
Never believe what JWs preach.
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Did Ancient Jewish Worshipers Ever Make Changes to the "Holy' Scriptures?
by fulltimestudent inif you have the time and the means to visit israel right now, you can see something that few modern people have seen.. at the israel museum in jerusalem, a very special document will be on display.
the museum's website heading describes it as:.
genesis retold: an exceptional dead sea scroll.. .
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Half banana
Yes Vidiot it was normal to alter a new copy of any hand written text in your possession, the impulse would be irresistible if you thought you could improve it, why not since no scribe ever thought "I am writing a part of the Bible". All Bible texts are a selection by the Roman Church of earlier manuscripts to suit their political agenda.
Smiddy, there is some sort of logic that an almighty god would leave clear instructions but the premise is wrong since almighty gods are only beliefs in the first place and meaningful logic is only applied to fact. Nevertheless what heavenly father would leave such a rag-bag of illogical texts to confuse his children with--and then beat their brains out if they didn't get it right?
To get to the root of this religion business it is really about the putative authority of the preacher. I missed a few words out of my earlier post and had wanted to say: It would be a religious coup to claim that all other versions of holy texts were defective but only those in your possession were the true words of God and no doubt this trick was played on the peasants.
If you can show 'evidence' to be in possession of "holiness" or "Divine truth" you gain authority and make good money!
In the early British churches as elsewhere the key was all about how holy or effective your relics were and if they caused miracles. If your abbey had a holy object which won battles or cured the sick, people would flock to you and fill the coffers especially if it attracted royal patronage.
In a similar way the Watchtower org play their unscrupulous trump card by claiming not only their text but their interpretation of it is the "true religion". It's just a superstition, superstition and a misguided belief in holiness.
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Idiotic Thread On A Cult Site
by FedUpJW inso as is my habit when i need a good laugh at stupid chat forum threads i popped in to the jay double u talk site and happened on this hilarious thread.
of course i have not read the whole thing, it was just too mentally painful to read those nitwits "reasoning"about "music".. why jehovah's witnesses do not use drums.... .
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Half banana
Who needs drums when you are on spiritual heroin?
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Oh Boy! Beards are "stumbling blocks" again ... from Stephen Lett
by freddo inso this week's midweek meeting video about stumbling others has lett spouting and gurning rubbish again.. if you can't take the whole 9 minutes go from 5:50 to get the context and 6:45 for the "beard" mention.. https://youtu.be/ezv1ici5cwo.
oh, well - at least they shoot themselves in the foot with this doublespeak.
single.
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Half banana
Brothers please, it’s not kind to mock the afflicted, I think you are all being unfair to members of the divinely appointed governing body, give these poor men some slack!
The longer the holy JW cult continues the further away from common sense and reality they go. Insulated from normal people and normal life they are off in a psychotic dream world of their own making.
Just how do you imagine you would end up talking and thinking if you were forced to living your life in a magic bubble in fairyland?
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Did Ancient Jewish Worshipers Ever Make Changes to the "Holy' Scriptures?
by fulltimestudent inif you have the time and the means to visit israel right now, you can see something that few modern people have seen.. at the israel museum in jerusalem, a very special document will be on display.
the museum's website heading describes it as:.
genesis retold: an exceptional dead sea scroll.. .
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Half banana
Folk tales which are at the core of Bible texts would have originally been transmitted verbally within families and probably by itinerant storytellers. The majority would have been illiterate and little the worse for that but to them the idea of something written down would have had almost magical implications and if the illiterate were told these markings on vellum or cut into stone were the words of God, by association they would be revered as sacred.
Once “sacred” is applied to anything, people’s expectations rise beyond reason and the if the words were assumed to be from god then the medium of transmission would also have to fittingly be perfect and immutable. Notice how the Genesis here is called “apocryphon” or secret text, creating a sense of mystery and awe.
However as shown here with the Genesis scroll, any manuscript is subject to deletions, alterations and additions. Each cultural centre holding texts might view their own copies as the authentic ones for status reasons but in reality there could be no authentic sacred versions. Nevertheless it would be a religious coup to claim that all other versions but your own were the true words of God and no doubt this trick was played on the peasants. Once successfully accomplished, the influence of the preacher and his synagogue would have been greatly empowered.
The various manuscripts in circulation accumulated additions (you have supplied the evidence FTS) and were edited over time. The idea that there was an original Bible is absurd, even the Jewish writings today (Tanakh) do not constitute what Christianity calls the OT. Even after the collection of books known as the Bible were given the imprimatur in the fourth century by the Roman Church they still kept revising it. The Protestants later deleted about seventeen of these books. Nothing is fixed or sacred, the reality was fluid and subject to prevailing religious orthodoxy.